Winter 2023/24 Updates

Has it ever been on the ride status page? It's not something that's sometimes not available, like a ride, so there might not be a need for it to be on there.

As you say, it's on the map still I'm sure it's still around.

The Sea lions are shown on the status page, but not the Parrots.

They surely wouldn't remove it as it was refurbished only last season

You could also argue that Polar Express is just the replacement for Mulan that left a few years back.

It's weird that they're removing their ship to replace it with another, and even weirder that it's going down the south end of the park. They need to put a major ride down there (ideally a coaster), these small new rides are wasted down there as I genuinely haven't seen that area of the park busy since the 1990's.

Yeah agree on both counts yet at least stuff gets replaced... all we have had for a decade is removals and more SBNO.......my main point is this is why many travel the 15 mins extra North and go to GYPB in the local community and just that screenshot of comments shows it...

loopings probably do understand but as they have the park for tax purposes they don't really care anymore. Although the park has been doing a lot of stuff recently there's no point adding more rides when they an barely deal with the ones they've got which is why they get in such a state and neglected most of the time.

Nice map, so the egg-coaster is a thrill ride now? They really over hyped the 'new ride experience' on MM if it really is just a new paint job an entrance, (it's the log flume all over again), but it's interesting that they have copied the log flume entrance. Should look nice.

The category is "Thrill Rides and Coasters", so that's why Eggspress is there.

The categories do seem a little strange to be honest. Woodys Cub House is in the "Shops and Souvenirs" category, which makes no sense at all.

It's nice as it shows how far they have come in recent years

With hours cut last season I doubt you'd see anything past 4 or 5pm...

Long gone are the 6pm closes and the trial 7pm that was granted planning consent.

it's a shame they didn't change the name, not sure what this 'new experience' is meant to be then, or did they just dump that idea and just repaint it?

Just a cheap way/gimmick to please geeks and enthusiats that there IS actually something new when like the log flume it's a half hearted re paint with some wood chucked on it in places, maybe some sound

The refurbs are great, long overdue yet what about all the other eye sores and sbno areas?

Joe public won't care for any refurbs as it won't bring people in as they are still exactly the same ride.

It may enhance some people's experience yet NEW rides, shows and attractions are what will propel the place moving forward, yet anything NEW for 2024 ?

Not a chance.

But they've done so much work around the park now, it's soon going to be almost unrecognisable.

If someone last visited in 2018, where I believe that park was at it's lowest point (with the SBNO Rattlesnake), and then visited again this year, the difference in their experience would be huge.

Since then they've added the farmyard area, with massive improvements made to the Dodgems and Rattlesnake. A fully refurbed log flume, Tidal Wave and Marble Madness, with theming added to the Sea Lion amphitheatre. Smaller refurbs made to the Safari, Moby Dick, park entrance, Cub House, Ponies, Woody's flying school and BOTH trains. Themed catering outlets AND toilets in the pirate and farmyard areas, as well as the addition of atmospheric audio across most of the park.

The latter we have never had at PWH before, it's always been a nice enough park with plain rides, now it's about the themed experience, and the little details which can go a long way to making your better.

Yeah there are still a few eye sores and empty plots around the park, but if they carry on with what their doing, I'm sure they'll get filled up eventually.

I jusy prey that Cannonball and Jolly Roger are both in the long term plans for the park.

I think the refubs go alone way to vistor satisfaction, Gotta keep what you've got in good shape before adding even more. All theses refurds does mean there wont be a new ride this year but i don't care anymore lol I reckon the circus will be back, might be is last year as it'll be the 3rd in row.

Well yeah, PWH doesn't get anywhere near the numbers that DMP gets, so that's never going to happen.

I reckon JR is still standing as they're building a new ride on the land opposite and they don't have the space to fold it up yet.

You on the sherry already? New ride... Lol.

It won't get folded down now as will be in operation next month.

Fingers crossed it never got folded up as they've been improving the aesthetics of it!

Just realised these are the cars we saw all that time back on the new logo for MM right?

No, the new logo featured tiny yellow cars with the eyes on still.

Ah my bad

You're welcome 😆

Looks nice. Usual online comments still visible for anyones views. Lol

We don't know for sure...yet I do know that a former senior team member did inform me last year "they simply won't invest"

Suffolk have probably given up asking now, when the park posted about the maintenance job this morning the same comments again and again...most were swiftly removed....

Well what you were told last year does kind of confirm that.

The fact that Loopings told PWH to install Hyper Drive shows how much control they have over the park.

But in their defence, they are still investing money each year, and this refurb of Marble Madness is not going to be cheap, with no real financial benefit for the park.

Yes they have little say...they also had to install the waveswinger over a thrill ride too....

Yes the refurbs are much much needed here and at any park yet it will do NOTHING to bring people in and most won't even notice.

I mean the log flume work was never completed either...

Yeah it would yet never gonna happen. There is nothing new coming for 2024 at least ( 10th consecutive season) as we know.

A good opportunity for a maintenance position has been advertised this morning yet the link contains no information on it and drayton has been spelt wrong as a benefit.

I've been wondering about if Marble is going to come back this year with more than three cars. Queues really ramp up during the summer when only three in operation but the cynic in me says this is intentional as queues make people's days last longer at PWH!

I agree on both parts tbh. But whilst the queue can get long, the full queue line is only around 20 minutes, so it's not much really.

They do have 4 cars (possibly still 5), but only choose to run it with 3. But like I said, it's not really a problem as a 20 minute wait isn't much. I'd rather see them put more boats on the flume and carts on RTTT.

Cannonball is Where they need to sort capacity along with rooting tooting.

I hope cannonball gets a strip down over closed season of 24, it's looking very bad.

It doesn't seem to be anything other than routine maintenance to me. However it's great to see them sharing stuff like this!

Detonator is actually a park model and doesn't fold up like Jolly does.

It's usually down by now yet still standing

Yeah it would be possible, but I wouldn't see the point in moving those tbh. There's nothing wrong with where they are, and the Hyper Drive plot doesn't even need a ride on it. Its already a ride-heavy area, it just should be landscaped to looked nicer IMO.

I dont think there's a need for 2 walk-thru's, especially as they'd both be scare themed. And if I was to chose one to be open all year, I'd definitely go for the train maze. The maze under the castle van be hidden well enough, but the train is there for all to see. Plus calling it "Ghost Train" would be a neat little twist.

So many parks all over the world have little walk-thru's that aren't staffed at all. They have automated traffic lights at the start to let people know when they can enter, and then the attraction just has sensors all over ready to set all the scares off.

Now the train is fully exposed again, it would be great to see something like this happen, and I believe it would be well within the small budget the park gets.

Plus it could still be kept as a scare maze for Halloween, with the addition of actors.

Trouble is The hills aren't very good at keeping 'dark' rides or attaraction maintaned. So anything is moving parts or sensors would just be a problimatic. We just have to remember Tales of the caost and hobs pit that just got neglected, and even the new target trail the scoring systems seems to keep breaking As they got rid if the tea rooms a while back they could re=open inside the the train, as it was once used as a food place one before i shouldn't be too hard to do, and theres normally some kind of ice cream kiosk around that aera which could be moved onto the hardstand as well.. i agree they don't need a ride there.

I didn't think of the sea air thing, that's a good point. Although Wipeout surely even more exposed, yet the track looks fine in comparison. I'd probably put it more down to the materials used for the original repaint.

Well wipeout could be due to height yet its further over from the sea as such.

Blackpool of course is highly exposed.

Not sure on MM just as I've said pleased it's being done.

I doubt we'll get new spinning cars if they can't even justify one more cart for Cannonball !

If you already know that we're not getting anything new next year, then surely a major refurbishment of a coaster is good news?!

They haven't quite advertised as new have they? They said "new experience", which they're well within their rights to do if the experience of the ride changes. From looking at the pictures, the whole station and queue line area has been totally demolished, so it really could look totally different next year.

Yes mate I already said I welcome the news, it ( along with other rides and areas) are in an terrible state so it's much needed yet you know as well as I do it's stuff that doesn't need to be shouted about ( and I include merlin and other operators here too ) but for now it's good news

They do mention 'new experience', so I'd like to hope that it will feature a few nice theming elements. The frame design of the rides supports should help with adding tunnels!

If you closely at one of the pictures, the entire station and queue line has all been demolished!

I hadn't noticed that! Looks like a proper job!